If the relative bottom n% fitness men are bullied into suicide or depression (e.g. inceldom) then we should expect the equilibrium number of trans women to be a double digit percent of the male population (20-60%) once fertile and passing is the default outcome of transition.
Prompt: Steve Russell opening a gate to hell with the PDP-1 minicomputer, Oil on canvas, trending on artstation https://t.co/gOGyUK7Kvh
Based on this Creative Commons licensed photo by Alex Handy. However I believe the outputs are transformative enough to qualify as fair use.
flickr.com/photos/4445157β¦ https://t.co/3SMwvvdcnb
Steve Russell ponders the orb. https://t.co/kdMOuT85R3
@ESYudkowsky Been pondering the orb again?
x.com/jd_pressman/st⦠https://t.co/mHb9GTPIb9
x.com/nosilverv/stat⦠https://t.co/tpSdfk3AbZ
@ahmadaIanazi @RiversHaveWings Oh, tens of thousands perhaps. Or more.
With the angle of the cue card text right https://t.co/Np951xpavM
@TetraspaceWest No no I think that's *reading* memes.
Besides everyone knows ADHD isn't real, it's just a trauma response.
uwu
@TetraspaceWest This Is What Postrats Actually Believe
x.com/nosilverv/statβ¦
@PrinceVogel x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@PrinceVogel In fairness Robin Hanson has described our period as the dream time and I include this entry in Liber Augmen referencing/elaborating on it.
overcomingbias.com/2009/09/this-i⦠https://t.co/1QbNXWsgT4
Prompt: An oil painting of The New York City Skyline by Natalia Goncharova
(CFG CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m finetune]) https://t.co/P0Z9FxbxEQ
The implications of this will need to be reexamined with human indistinguishable voice spoofing soon to arrive for the general public. x.com/nillkitty/statβ¦
Prompt: sketch of a 3D printer by Leonardo da Vinci
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m cfg finetune]) https://t.co/sLrTtSvL1M
@LapsusLima youtube.com/watch?v=nZLSqRβ¦
Last time
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
The time before that
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@andymmmmc > (CLIP Guided Diffusion [Chainbreakers/@RiversHaveWings WikiArt 243m])
> (Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [Conceptual Captions 12 Million])
> (CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m cfg finetune])
What usually happens, better models.
@tszzl @chaosprime Well he's using 'preference falsification cascade' the wrong way around maybe?
I think he means that the enlightenment people psyop'd everyone into rationality they didn't actually want on reflection.
Mussolini's defection from the socialist movement was the cancer that prevented a international revolution from ever taking place. Instead of getting 4 red countries in Europe, they got fascist Italy, Germany, and Spain. After WW2 winning wasn't viable but the charade went on.
The legacy of 'fascist' as the ultimate insult in left wing circles speaks to this defeat without recognizing it. Contemporary Marxism is just a sad rage lost in a sea of fog. A phantom railing more and more bitterly against what is in the service of what might have been.
It's interesting to consider the whims on which destiny is made. Mussolini's sadomasochism more or less ensured not just that socialism would fail to become the dominant ideology in his generation, but that its adherents would never succeed. https://t.co/8Ue35H6PDz
@NonMurkyConsqnc @The_taking_tree @jessi_cata Thinking everything is about trauma is just a trauma response.
Prompt: cozy cyberpunk capsule hotel, trending on artstation
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m cfg finetune]) https://t.co/OOOwLLgEdt
Protip: If you put 'royalty free' at the start of your prompt CLIP will remove the watermarks.
Prompt: [royalty free]/[] vector illustration of a bodhisattva sitting at a beige white CRT monitor desktop computer https://t.co/ZHhIUaD5Qs
t.co/yfMi23H4m9 https://t.co/1oyZmkaGP8
From Scott Aaronson's dunk on postrat a decade before its invention:
scottaaronson.com/writings/selfdβ¦
@VividVoid_ Humanism was a mistake.
@World4Pete @interfluidity @felixsalmon NFTs are probably the first serious use of IPFS in the wild tbh.
@VividVoid_ medium.com/@blaisea/do-la⦠https://t.co/RFTldlcPQN
@VividVoid_ I am begging you to consider that there might be more forms of intelligence and understanding than are suggested by anthropic comparisons.
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
(Not just that tweet but the whole thread is relevant)
@VividVoid_ Good question. So if you go and read e.g. Hutter he will basically write that he's ignoring anti-inductive environments and assumes the agent should be rewarded for applying Occam's Razor even when it doesn't work.
This is...a take. But "embodiment" is an even dumber take imo. https://t.co/saLtEbJ445
@VividVoid_ In all likelihood the best way to deal with anti-inductive environments is to consider them ecologically. e.g. There's no "best choice" in rock-paper-scissors, but there might be social coordination or metagame which makes a certain choice locally more useful than others.
@VividVoid_ (Quote from: arxiv.org/pdf/0712.3329.β¦)
@VividVoid_ For a contrasting perspective see Chollet's "On The Measure Of Intelligence" which is explicitly anthropic.
arxiv.org/pdf/1911.01547β¦
But still basically information theoretic in approach.
@VividVoid_ > and no semantic attachment to familiar metaphors
Multimodal models help fix this. Eventually the thing that draws those pretty pictures you see on my timeline and the thing that writes the funny tweets will be one model which can draw on its understanding of both.
@dystopiabreaker 'm*tamask' 'support'
@VividVoid_ "A great building must begin with the unmeasurable, must go through measurable means when it is being designed and in the end must be unmeasurable."
- Louis Kahn
@VividVoid_ The ineffability of the gaps is a dying god.
@VividVoid_ We're at the "accepted with disappointment that you would never fly" stage of modernism, but this next part... https://t.co/V6u8joHcIU
@manipulanda @VividVoid_ @deepfates I'm not even sure it's a matter of "real world" so much as "fails to understand objects". It's usually believed that humans have inductive priors around what an 'object' is that artificial neural networks don't share yet.
@VividVoid_ Respectfully,
1) What's your emotional relationship to this subject? i.e. Are key elements of your life strategy relying on AGI not working well?
2) What observations would change your mind? What does the world look like where you're correct vs. incorrect?
@CarlBeijer x.com/RiversHaveWingβ¦
@kausch @deepfates @VividVoid_ This is incidental to your point, but we already deploy customer help lines with the explicit mandate that the human on the other end use a flow chart to solve the users problem. Original and 'out of distribution' thinking is explicitly punished by most call centers.
@dystopiabreaker The last time I asked for a pro-NFT essay, nobody replied with one.
This is the cope time: the final year(s) where 20th century humanism will seem like a remotely sane frame to consider humanity's problems through. After that what will follow is deep despair and nihilism from the people who bet big on it.
deviantart.com/techgnotic/jouβ¦
20th century humanism is to the humanities as high modernism/scientism is to natural philosophy.
It's just guys writing "Don't Invent The Torment Nexus: A Novel" over and over without any actual plan for how we are going to deal with having the capacity to invent and deploy the torment nexus.
x.com/TetraspaceWestβ¦
@zetalyrae I thought the article I linked in the OP was a pretty central example. Human potential movement, "it's all vibes just let your authentic self out", Jackson Pollock, "what we need here is a revolution", problems framed by default as existing on the human scale, etc.
@zetalyrae "Level-1 or world space is an anthropomorphically scaled, predominantly vision-configured, massively multi-slotted reality system that is obsolescing very rapidly.
Garbage time is running out.
Can what is playing you make it to level-2?"
- Nick Land, Fanged Noumena
@patlouiswilkie @vgr It's from this tweet referencing a whole genre of dystopian science fiction novels: x.com/AlexBlechman/sβ¦
@MikePFrank @nosilverv mattmahoney.net/dc/rationale.hβ¦
Kinda shocking how rarely it's pointed out that anyone who is a genuinely good programmer almost has to have developed Kegan 5 skills. x.com/flybottlemist/β¦
@flybottlemist Yeah, it's weird how some people fail to generalize but at least in principle if you think that systems are 'objective' in the way a naive Kegan 4 person does you're simply not going to understand computer science concepts like 'compilers' and 'weird machines' in a intuitive way.
@flybottlemist Also shocking how often people fail to do this, yes. https://t.co/Hw8CaSMbqm
@ollyrobot x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
Been feeling a bit melancholy about the zeitgeist these last few months. It seems like the old subcultures and scenes are evaporating without exciting new ones to replace them. The proliferation of dramas is an ignoble way for them to go as well. Dying of old age, natural causes. https://t.co/R2HdMMtBg2
Perhaps the age of the generalist will be over soon, all the low hanging fruit having been plucked by 2000's and 2010's fora. I may just have to accept that scenes of the future will have a narrower scope than I'm used to, specialist discourses less concerned with each other.
Even SlateStarCodex, the previous standard bearer of the intelligent public generalist intellectual, has become much more focused on the specialist discourse of psychiatry in its latest incarnation as AstralCodexTen. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it's a different thing.
@eigenrobot That's fine, maybe people don't always have to understand each other.
@eigenrobot Though it may be to your advantage to try and explain it to me, even if only in private. Since I'm about halfway through writing an essay about postrat which will if nothing else convincingly misrepresent it if I don't understand it.
@deepfates https://t.co/N9ug8ea0rk
@eigenrobot FWIW I'm politely spam filtering this as x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@averykimball @eigenrobot Yeah, actually. Why?
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@averykimball @eigenrobot I don't vibe with it.
@averykimball @eigenrobot That which is asserted with vibes can be dismissed with vibes.
@PurpleWhale12 There's a tendency to see the bad in change and neglect the good. LessWrong's pivot to AI discourse is likely better for the site than insight porn farming. Eleuther AI, biohacking, crypto are better places for people to be putting their energy than this:
srconstantin.wordpress.com/2014/06/09/do-β¦
Prompt: royalty free samurai with their sword drawn facing the viewer, oil on canvas, trending on arstation
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m cfg finetune]) https://t.co/zl0tE7vPQl
These reflect the fact that when an organization (or nation) is in decline the act of reforming it to be successful under new conditions is essentially a new founding period. America is on its 3rd or 4th republic depending on how you want to count it.
There's actually four founding myths of America, which are believed by different subsets of the population.
1. The founding fathers 1776 myth
2. The Abraham Lincoln 1865 emancipation myth
3. The 1945 WW2 FDR New Deal internationalism myth
4. The 1987 Reagan vs. the Soviets myth x.com/Lollardfish/stβ¦
Unsure if @SamoBurja has written about this before, but the dynamics of a long running re-founded organization developing split demographics around which founding myth is *the* founding myth seems like it would be a recurring pattern.
@Alephwyr @tszzl tfw slow dawning realization that you're in a simulation dedicated to parodying the life of the ancestor you're modeled after
Prompt: universal psychedelic love in the atomic age, mural
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m cfg finetune] + Diffusion Upscaler) https://t.co/HEqo8Gskp9
@michaelcurzi Go to any big poasters account and look at the tweet:follower ratio, do this for about 6-12 and the correlation will become obvious.
I'd rather not spoil this for you, actually do it.
Prompt: psychedelic buddhist detailed vector portrait of a cat smiling in the style of the milky way galaxy
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m cfg finetune] + Diffusion Upscaler) https://t.co/DeTvJhRusf
@Outsideness > βthe shallowest of them all β has now succeeded,β he wrote, βand it has done so in the shoddiest possible way,β filling him with dread that Hitler would drive Germany and Europe towards disaster and discredit radical alternatives to liberalism for generations to come.
Well...
Prompt: royalty free stained glass psychedelic buddhist detailed vector portrait of a cat smiling in the style of the milky way galaxy
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m cfg finetune]) https://t.co/ROAR2K6UdV
@briandavidhall bash.org/?152037
@briandavidhall Someone else asked the same question and didn't get a comic as an answer, are you sure it exists?
reddit.com/r/xkcd/commentβ¦
@StinkenderKase @Ted_Underwood Prompt: a dark castle atop a steep mountain, with a single lamp burning in a high window
This isn't that far off from my imagination, but my imagination was different. I visualized the huge mountain, the little castle on top, and then a tiny speck of light near the top of it. https://t.co/r3XrrMQbOR
@Ted_Underwood @StinkenderKase x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@briandavidhall If it makes you feel any better, I totally thought there was a comic of it too and was mildly shocked to find there apparently isn't? I definitely remember the setup/premise with it specifically being Linux tech support though.
@RokoMijic @DistractedAnna > is a postrat
> registers as normie to me
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
Many such cases.
@RokoMijic @DistractedAnna Also convolution isn't biologically plausible because it involves weights tied across spatial positions.
@RokoMijic @DistractedAnna Shitposting aside my definition of postrat is honestly something like "Doesn't believe rationalist-y systems have outsized power + conflict theory."
The first is wrong, the second implemented poorly/naively. The chosen tactic in response to conflict theory is usually to hide.
@MacaesBruno At some point someone made a 'mega block' that just blocks any account who liked a particular tweet.
This isn't exactly true on either side but something like it is the case: x.com/alexandrosM/stβ¦
@vgr Happens sometimes. What are you going to do (what steps can you take now) so that you don't waste it again tomorrow?
A Brain-Computer-Interface Expands The Mind
Prompt: meditation circle wearing EEG caps wired to each others heads, trending on artstation
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [Conceptual Captions 12 Million]) https://t.co/d0dSOS1Gq2
@imperative_the Empirically: They don't stand out in a hyper competitive social landscape without resorting to the social equivalent of pickup artistry.
@algekalipso One of the functions of religion is to form a pact to push back against people trying to persecute you for being weird in accordance with the demands of a higher calling.
Prompt: meditation circle wearing EEG caps wired to each others heads by ross tran
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m]) https://t.co/ZLH7hNas10
So when are we going to talk about how this means life insurance premiums are going up and therefore cryonics will become more expensive?
archive.is/Z9zri
@jessi_cata Most of the damage is invisible I'm afraid. Part of why the flu still exists is that most flu damage is invisible too.
x.com/jeremychryslerβ¦
@jessi_cata cdc.gov/flu/highrisk/h⦠https://t.co/juSZsI2H9i
@jessi_cata x.com/jeremychryslerβ¦
@jeremychrysler @jessi_cata Forget the deaths, I'm worried about this thing coming back every year and disabling 0.5-1% of the population.
@jeremychrysler @jessi_cata This whole pandemic has just been "deaths deaths deaths" and that's just not the thing to be worried about here. Yes there are deaths and they're terrible, but the quality of life decrease and loss of workforce will be bigger problems for society in the long run if not halted.
@deepfates youtube.com/watch?v=TBR9ypβ¦
@jessi_cata x.com/IanRicksecker/β¦
@zebulgar @nosilverv youtube.com/watch?v=eBAhanβ¦
@Buddh_ish https://t.co/S4rMlxmjAn
@dendricide @Buddh_ish I was actually making the opposite point to support the tweet I was replying to.
mfers out here getting psyop'd so hard by modernity they wind up believing chickens aren't real
@ben_r_hoffman "Chickens don't suffer"
"They're not conscious bro"
@ben_r_hoffman https://t.co/mVzg2zne0E
@ben_r_hoffman Disrespecting your opponents and prey is probably a source of trauma:
acoup.blog/2020/04/16/colβ¦
@ben_r_hoffman It seems notable that even Ernst Junger, who reveled in the slaughter of WW1, was deeply hurt by his internalization of the concept of a slaughterhouse during WW2:
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@ben_r_hoffman Compare/contrast his attitude towards combat in WW1 as described in Storm of Steel with his wartime diaries during the Nazi era. https://t.co/DoOl2TwdXx
Prompt: psychedelic stained glass vector portrait of a cat by louis wain
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m cfg finetune]) https://t.co/2uuQW5lcjS
@Meaningness Christianity was defeated by something with no positive vision (New Atheism et al) so what resulted was a power vacuum rather than enlightenment.
@NicholasBardy @Meaningness Everyone remembers when he said "God is dead", but they forgot the rest of it. https://t.co/HJBIURXEpp
@NicholasBardy @Meaningness The materialist reincarnations of religion (which, to wit Chapman vividness.live/consumerism-fu⦠I think will be fundamentalisms in spirit) are something I expect to be narratively central to the 21st century. But that might be optimistic, the alternative is noise sliding into death.
@LapsusLima My friend called it memepolitik
@ThisIsHipHop2 70s
10s (controversial but it's true, last decade was a golden era)
80s
60s
90s
00s
@ThisIsHipHop2 I could be persuaded to swap 60's and 90's tbh.
Spent a bit reflecting on what makes the 00's bottom for me and I think it's the way that pop music in that decade as a rule is either
a) vulgar soulless hiphop
b) literally written for high schoolers
c) emo/scene/pop-punk
@ThisIsHipHop2 All of these are kind of cringe for their own reasons, but the emo and scene stuff comes off especially privileged and silly with the benefit of hindsight. Like what were you people so upset about? You were objectively living in some of the nicest economic conditions in history.
@candrianillborn @metakuna As a guy who went back and read some General Semantics stuff, I don't think this is actually true. There's a lot of developments in epistemology that happened between Korzybski and Yudkowsky. e.g. information theory wasn't available to Korzybski when he was writing.
@candrianillborn @metakuna There was definitely a lot of influence, I'm just not sure I'd characterize it as 'most'.
@Ted_Underwood Yes. Thank your for recognizing this, I've talked to art curators who were almost offended by it. "A cheap trick to boost art that couldn't stand on its own merits."
@Ted_Underwood youtube.com/watch?v=ApWllXβ¦
@Ted_Underwood I would add that part of the message is not just the changing form but the power of the production process itself, it helps underscore the reality of art produced by capital rather than labor.
@Ted_Underwood It seems auspicious that Andy Warhol, the emblem of commercial art, was famous for his use of grids.
"I don't know what pill to call this but you should probably stop taking it"
@Alephwyr Hard to say without more details. Could be schizophrenia (i.e. dimensions of comparison which are only obvious to you), could be simply noncentral associations which you aren't capturing well with your words.
Prompt: a phoenix rising over the world, oil on canvas
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/O6PLp63hRM
One attempt:
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
So one method I use for figuring out what to illustrate with the AI is to just go through my writing and look at things I've expressed interest in for inspiration.
Liber Augmen is hard mode because the concepts often have no premade visual language to express them. https://t.co/KnFivH1YK1
Another.
Prompt: aeriel drone view of an indian slum, oil on canvas
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/G7iWHTVvc0
Failed attempt.
Prompt: sonar emitted by an orb of white light amidst a crowd of red orbs filling the sea of dukkha duhkha, acrylic on canvas
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/yM2rHRcna7
A partial failure, worth retrying with different variations.
Prompt: a bodhisattva having an out of body experience as their astral projection flows from their body to aerially view the entire world
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/DX375YCVWK
Better, but still not good yet.
Prompt: royalty free artist's rendition of a bodhisattva having an out of body experience as their astral projection flows from their body to aerially view the entire world
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/q69P8qqlRC
There we go.
Prompt: royalty free artist's rendition of a bodhisattva having an out of body experience as their astral projection flows from their body to aerially view the slums of the world
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/FtEN6TB7VM
This one I'm stumped on, anyone want to suggest prompts? x.com/jd_pressman/st⦠https://t.co/u5cGbOegrO
Nope. Neither a jigsaw puzzle or a common cuckoo.
Prompt: a jigsaw puzzle of a cuckoo bird with a few pieces missing, acrylic on canvas
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/5O2LJmZrft
@JimDMiller You know the government is lying to you, it's up to you to figure out if they're lying about the vaccine (because it has more side effects than they want to admit) or they're lying about the virus (because it does more damage than they could admit and keep society upright).
@JimDMiller I suspect the answer is something like "Why not both?"
@JimDMiller And you can see that this split is pretty deeply ingrained even in the Twitter discourse. I routinely see people who think they're the lucky ones for not taking the vaccine while everyone who did will have health problems and vice versa.
@JimDMiller https://t.co/DkqwnfY9fn
Getting somewhere.
Prompt: a man cradling an infant chimera eldritch monster, acrylic on canvas
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/l0YRL6ces7
Think I reached enlightenment looking at my Twitter feed last night. People who are quietly right all the time don't have much to say, people who are correctly suppressed for their dumb viewpoints vent by street preaching on the timeline. Wrong things have distribution advantage. https://t.co/fJu2NwIWXw
You just repeat a pigheaded thing enough times and people will start to believe it. Untrue things get repeated more often with more energy, therefore...
(Though if you really understand, me typing πͺ wouldn't have been all that different)
@dystopiabreaker I mean there's better face GANs even now, not evenly distributed, few.
lambdalabs.com/blog/stylegan-β¦
@tszzl @mattparlmer I've got you beat:
extropian.net/notice/9sKFpj1β¦
At some point no amount of political pressure will be enough to stop us from noticing that psychic plagues are real. x.com/ripx4nutmeg/stβ¦
Per Jung: https://t.co/Z9Y9Xxz05O
Prompt: One student tested positive IN THE AUDITORIUM, and a few students started screaming and ran away from him. There was now a lack of available seats given there was a COVID-positive student within the middle of the auditorium, acrylic on canvas
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion) x.com/neuroecology/s⦠https://t.co/bDG3y6B0jf
@nosilverv I often wonder what a social network without the gamification and grinding mechanics would actually look like.
Prompt: an ammunition box full of MRE containers, acrylic on canvas
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/tmjjIQRdz7
If you seriously think you're going to fool a superintelligent AI this way and let it control your actions this hard you kinda deserve whatever happens to you tbh. x.com/__justplaying/β¦
@PrinceVogel It is usually accepted that artificial neural networks take so long to train because their inductive biases are worse than humans. That is, they take less for granted than we do. One disturbing possibility of this is that artificial networks are more general intelligence than us.
Always signal boost it when they reveal the real agenda. x.com/everestpipkin/β¦
"We 'have no right' to incentives, we should just let outcomes be dictated by something economically rational that doesn't share our values."
x.com/everestpipkin/β¦
@nosilverv youtube.com/watch?v=W0URhWβ¦
Intuitively humans seem to do counterfactuals just fine, would be my immediate objection. But that isn't exactly rigorous.
In How The Laws Of Physics Lie by Nancy Cartwright she argues that decision theory is busted because of Simpson's Paradox and counterfactuals being intractable. My intuition says this is wrong but I'm not entirely sure how to articulate what's wrong with it. Anyone know offhand?
Prompt: scifi illustration of a man inside a personal forcefield sphere as thought cloud bubbles bounce away from it
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/YvUynDJgSj
@bmorphism --clip-guidance-scale 1000 --steps 500
@SporadicE5 oxford.universitypressscholarship.com/view/10.1093/0β¦
@michael_nielsen I used to use Hacker News for this but then it became so low quality I stopped visiting it, very sad.
"Sir, you are not 'based and metarationality pilled', you are a romantic."
@dystopiabreaker But...why, anyone who uses that has to know not to give out their seed phrase right?
@jackmcaustin @dystopiabreaker moxie.org/2022/01/07/webβ¦
@deepfates Not sure I listen to any music which sounds like that.
@ExistentialEnso Whoever invented the right click meme is a marketing genius tbh, reliably hustles people into thinking they're being clever by giving NFTs more attention.
@ExistentialEnso @DastardlyDucks NFTs are repeatable performance art.
@ExistentialEnso NFTs are a practice for the sickest and most deranged capitalists. Each minting involves the cold blooded murder of a first born child, which determines the tokens value. NFTs intrinsically privilege the wealthy because their first born children are worth more. (π§΅1/213)
@deepfates Nah, sorry. I like my music to sound, you know, good.
youtube.com/watch?v=jGEk7rβ¦
@deepfates What were you expecting?
@deepfates Yeah, it sounds like Luigi Russolo got drunk and decided to find out what Pink Floyd would sound like if it was remixed beyond comprehensibility in the style of Leyland Kirby.
Which is awesome, but then so is Nickelback. π
youtube.com/watch?v=IC3KMbβ¦
@deepfates More seriously, if you enjoy that track you'd probably like Orbital's The Box.
youtube.com/watch?v=MWi_7Qβ¦
Hard to say why, similar-ish vibe somehow I guess.
@deepfates Part of it is that they're both very cinematic tracks, slow progressive build up with suspenseful composition. The Box could easily be the backing to an old school Spaghetti Western standoff. Part of it is the otherworldliness of it.
@deepfates If you insist on guitar then perhaps:
youtube.com/watch?v=JsaPb3β¦
@deepfates Yeah, but I also predict you'll like that one if you like the song you mentioned in OP and The Box. :3
@deepfates Oh thaaaat kind of music, yea I gotcha fam
youtube.com/watch?v=gMXwpQβ¦
@deepfates The funniest part is that these were like, studio sessions they did with Marty O'Donnell which weren't included in the game at all. So fans of the series would buy the soundtrack and be listening through all familiar, then *this* shows up out of nowhere on the OST.
@deepfates The band is Incubus, in any case.
youtube.com/watch?v=A0N7_Nβ¦
Many retvrn types don't believe in god, but they do believe in theological Schelling points for violence.
@dystopiabreaker @ExistentialEnso @robottomulatto @jstn πCAPITALISMπISπWHATEVERπSHITπI'MπONπABOUTπATπANYπGIVENπMOMENTπINVOLVINGπMONEYπ
@dystopiabreaker @ExistentialEnso @robottomulatto @jstn Use of the word 'capitalism' is unfortunately a strong indicator of lazy thinking. Because it's much easier to propose vague, amorphous systematic changes to systems you don't understand than to reform or detail a proposal for a true alternative.
@robottomulatto @dystopiabreaker @ExistentialEnso @jstn I wish that tweet was mostly about crypto.
UFOs are a long deep state op to discredit intellectual dark web/alt-epistemology/etc send tweet
Thread for tracking the new scissor statements as we transition into the next phase of culture war.
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Butlerian Jihad/Gene Editing/etc
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Trying to force people to "get past" something in their nature just hides that nature, obfuscates the dynamic which is still in play.
@dystopiabreaker @ExistentialEnso Every time I see that website I think to myself "if this was an IPFS mirror it would actually be valuable".
@dystopiabreaker @ExistentialEnso It's just this landmark achievement in missing the point. It'll probably be looked back on as an exemplar of the tragicomic ways people misunderstood this stuff.
@LucioMM1 @RokoMijic Can also do active but indirect conflict like competing institutions, competing literary criticism, etc.
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
People think if they become delusional enough they stop being responsible for it, that they're no longer competent to be judged. Cooperating with this mindset is corrosive, otherwise intelligent people that keep believing insane lies are choosing to on some level of metacognition
Same principle: x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
Hanlon's Razor as a substitute for Occam's Razor is peacekeeping social technology masquerading as an epistemic technique. This is one reason why conversation with 'rationalists' can quickly become extremely obnoxious.
Mercy and justice are both virtues because on a long enough timescale even weeds would learn to photosynthesize tears to exploit your sympathy.
This vision but it's a merciful person being walked through how in the final stages of the GAN every wretched creature will have optimized their destruction to be as horrible and unsympathetic as possible.
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@RokoMijic I expect most of the superorganisms to be ground into paste during the 21st century. I tend to focus on the individual because the extant superorganisms gain support not by promising a better way but a credible Schelling point for violent resistance.
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@RokoMijic Everywhere there are seeds of genius, but nobody is dominant enough for hegemony. This is actually the central problem, and no aligned superorganisms will be possible until consensus emerges. https://t.co/yWVgn6xQiR
@RokoMijic extropian.net/notice/9xpK3Z0β¦
@RokoMijic @selentelechia I understand you're on some extreme left hand path shit right now and on a quest to break every egalitarian social norm you can get away with but my man I gotta ask you: How would your grandfather or great grandfather feel looking at this interaction, what if it was in person?
@RokoMijic @selentelechia Even if you see all of us as poisoned, it's important not to let your frustration with modernity get in the way of basic social grace that would hold in basically any human society. If you went up to a woman on the street and said this shit you would be rightly taken as a pest.
@RokoMijic @selentelechia Forget the cringe, forget the fact that you made someone else's day worse for no good reason (it's not even a good performance), this kind of passion poured into interactions that don't quite make social sense is an easy way to segue into psychosis and derangement.
@RokoMijic @selentelechia (And, come to think of it, if you went up to a man on the street and said it you'd be taken as a pest too)
@RokoMijic Unsure what's the most polite way to note that I'm fairly sure I've never said that, but I'm fairly sure I've never said that. And if I have I wasn't thinking about it hard enough.
@nosilverv I saw this but just concluded everyone is crazy smh
Maybe instead of writing anything about postrat I should just explain materialism. Vast majority of materialists couldn't invent materialism and people can smell this weakness, "materialism as dogmatic belief in the standard model" couldn't discover standard model. x.com/the_wilderlessβ¦
Prompt: christ rebukes the pharisees, stained glass
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/GUOCwBr58j
When I was eight I fell into a trance while listening to the Pokemon Dance Remix and attained a jhana in my rocking chair. Nothing was there and everything was beautiful.
For the rest of my life techno/trance became associated with the transcendent.
youtube.com/watch?v=5i8tCNβ¦
Honestly wondering how many contemporary problems boil down to "materialism is correct but materialists are terrible".
People would rather put on clown makeup than associate themselves with the soy touch.
@QiaochuYuan @sunofdopamine @selentelechia π
Celerocracy (n.)
Rule by speedrunners.
@visakanv Which is funny, because if you find that you're at odds with others it's really one of the more important things you could know.
What if your high status, anthropocentric problems like 'capitalism', 'trauma', 'politics' were actually intractable features of reality like 'materialist metaphysics', 'thermodynamics', 'iron law of wages'.
See also: x.com/chaosprime/staβ¦
@nosilverv Chapman's entire thing is a gambit to try and preserve Buddhism against atomization tearing systems to shreds.
vividness.live/a-dzogchen-shaβ¦
@vettisceneonly Like a 6 or 7. I think that there's a ton of unnecessary scarcity and status games being played which it's absolutely right to be angry about, but these are getting conflated in unprincipled ways with problems that are basically unavoidable in the long run.
@vettisceneonly It's ha-ha-only-serious.
@avsa Snapping a picture of someone else's phone screen isn't cool.
@matildepark_ I don't want to run a cantankerous spaghetti stack of code where half the stack requires my conscious intervention to set up and maintain.
Which is what 'server' cashes out to most of the time tbh.
@matildepark_ I don't want to have to worry about updates breaking my setup and not applying updates meaning my box gets pwned so Siberian teenagers can use it as part of a botnet and send my visitors malware.
@matildepark_ I do it anyway because it's the right thing to do, but this is very much on the 'cost' side of the ledger.
@jhamby @ExistentialEnso It would also make them a similar figure to JStark: Partially inspired in their fearless initiative by the knowledge that their death is close at hand anyway.
@GarrettPetersen amazon.com/IBM-Holocaust-β¦
@dystopiabreaker @tszzl Maybe. To play devils advocate you can absolutely upload your videos to another video hosting site (even peertube). And the social graph on YouTube is very weak to nearly-nonexistent. What you cannot walk away with is YouTube's recommendation engine and distribution channel.
@dystopiabreaker @tszzl Both of which are the real draw for the vast majority of creators on the site, who are not Joe Rogan and need YouTube's help to have a critical mass of audience attention.
@dystopiabreaker @tszzl Even more trollish observation: It could be argued that YouTube can demand a bigger take not just because it's sucking oxygen out of the room but because it's offering discoverability these people otherwise wouldn't dream of having. The take is proportionate to value it offers.
@dystopiabreaker @tszzl My counter to the devils advocate would be something along the lines of: Blockchain's real value add is the assurance of open data, so that 3rd party indexers and discovery engines can exist in the way Google exists. Interop and indexing is what protects you, not social graph.
@dystopiabreaker @tszzl And my counter to the counter would be that even with 3rd party indexers, that value provided by someone with a huge audience will still be there. Talent agencies and Hollywood producers don't *just* exist because making movies is expensive. Think Netflix.
@dystopiabreaker @tszzl Putting all this together I would imagine a healthy web3 ecosystem would give creators a bigger share of the pie, but a substantial amount is probably still taxed away at equilibrium just by the usual network effects, brand names, and social power dynamics.
@dystopiabreaker @tszzl Another way to think about this is that if you're getting 90% right now it's actually a selection effect where no infrastructure means projects only exist if they can advocate for themselves sufficiently well not to need to pay a fee to someone else who can do it better.
Apparently the iron law of wages bit makes people really mad, which means it deserves an encore. 𧡠x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
The sense in which the law of wages is an intractable feature is simple: Absent a global state that imposes perfect eugenics policies, or a fertility crash so strong it leads to human extinction, Thomas Malthuse is very likely to be correct in the long term. My take is Hansonian.
Right now we observe that modernity craters fertility rates, which seems to be people not wanting children strongly enough. A mass die off (in genetic terms) of people without strong breeding instincts implies if humans exist in the future they're selected to be baby crazed. https://t.co/U0zKS6pxio
Furthermore the plausibility of a universal eugenic state to cull genes for liking babies too much is undermined if we imagine an interplanetary future. Control has to be maintained across worlds for a very long time not to expect the modal human experience to be malthusian.
This isn't a right wing talking point, guilt tripping people into major life decisions is cringe at best. However, neutrally, simple natural selection implies that if the only populations with enough growth to offset their decay from death are breeders the future is natalist.
"What does this have to do with economic conditions right now?"
Not a ton, if anything we should expect that people are paid more during a fertility crunch. That they aren't implies fuckery or automation. My bet is fuckery.
"If it isn't relevant right now why are you talking about it?"
I think there's something kind of weird and sad about the idea of holding a value system that implies if you were born outside of the one tiny timeslice of abundant material wealth life wouldn't be worth it for you.
"What's the alternative?"
In the long term, to abolish the hedonic treadmill and make the default experience beautiful and worthy for people.
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"Okay but how do we do that?"
We can't even convince people to put the homeless in homes when it's cheaper than letting them be homeless.
npr.org/2015/12/10/459β¦
Beats me.
"And in the short term?"
I feel like my manifesto would be a detour from the thread, but the tl;dr is "acknowledge peoples real problems (e.g. stop pretending intelligence is evenly distributed) and stop treating them like shit".
"Isn't it kind of misleading to put this esoteric viewpoint into your tweet when it'll be likely taken as a statement that our current woes are caused by the law of wages?"
I don't take my activism advice from ambiguously ironic meme tweets and hope you don't either.
"I hate you."
That's okay, I β€οΈ you.
"You don't really believe that thermodynamics and 'the iron law of wages' belong in the same sentence as 'intractable' do you?"
See previous statement about ambiguously ironic meme tweets.
@RokoMijic Also can't forget the existing problems like atomic warfare and bioengineered pandemics. What does the future actually look like where we avoid the entire slate of X-Risks and don't blow ourselves up? Seems fairly unlikely to me in general.
Prompt: the spider speaking to the fly from its web, watercolor on canvas
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@BullshittsDream Guess again, look closer. :)
Failing to persuade Siddhartha his meditation was cringe, the demon Mara appealed to his ego. https://t.co/ytGY2TXbo4
Prompt: Siddhartha Gautama in meditation under the bodhi tree, trending on artstation
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/7drCmtIGT0
@RiversHaveWings @nosilverv Mistitled it, people only remembered the catchphrase "Politics Is The Mindkiller" and forgot the content. Many such cases!
@RiversHaveWings @nosilverv It's actually a really short post so you can trivially verify this for yourself.
readthesequences.com/Politics-Is-Th⦠https://t.co/2NfAfBtpDD
@TylerAlterman extropian.net/notice/9vt9zsYβ¦
@sullyj3 @deepfates x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@TylerAlterman From: extropian.net/notice/9vt9zsYβ¦
@nosilverv @namenotrequired I'd like to hear the attempt anyway.
To the extent that works like HPMOR brought a lot of people into 'rationality' on a fandom basis, constituting a new literary movement, that movement became ineffective during the Trump-COVID era. It's no longer possible to feel the level of joy and idealism that genre demands.
There's this constant propaganda from various weirdos trying to retcon rat as a form of extreme protestant intellectual asceticism, but the truth is it was outright cringe in its extreme indulgence and wild extropian futurology. Protrat is just as much a reaction to it as postrat https://t.co/x1fkwmQGYC
If you want a time capsule of OG rat aesthetic you should be looking at users like x.com/TetraspaceWest (helpfully screenshotted below so this post still makes sense in the future) and emphatically not me, because I am very much not a good example of OG rat aesthetic. https://t.co/lB4GX2cGpS
Prompt: royalty free vector illustration of a human brain melting
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/as5i6lbBdr
@RokoMijic You mean like, benzos? Trust me you do not want people taking benzos as a substitute for alcohol dude.
@RichardMCNgo It would need to have a pulse for me to critique it.
@deepfates Bro you have no idea what it's gonna be like once esoteric transhumanist discourse is what people are arguing about on Tumblr and stuff. You're gonna be like those early SJ activists who had to watch teenagers systematically corrupt and destroy every idea they hopefully loved.
prompt: an organic and detailed design for a cryonics preservation chamber
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@mattparlmer Everyone forgets that ultimately the police are there to protect the criminal. Prisons, courts, and police officers who have at least a nominal mandate to follow rules are not the default, the default is people harming you when you wrong them, police are there to prevent that.
@dystopiabreaker In fairness, the slowness of eth's transition to PoS is a good argument in favor of Moxie's critique about protocols being hard to change by their nature.
@dystopiabreaker But lets be honest, the people talking about this aren't even in the same ballpark as that level of reasonableness.
@dystopiabreaker x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@thombruce @dystopiabreaker If assets exist on Ethereum then high gas fees make people reluctant to set up wrapper contracts to move them, creating a perverse network effect if it has first mover advantage. Also Solana is more centralized.
It also went up something like 4000x in 2021 so. https://t.co/RcECwtEMmJ
@thombruce @dystopiabreaker I'm not super familiar with Sol tbh but the situation as I understand it is that Solana gets more transactions in a block by massively beefing up the hardware requirements to run a node on the network. This means that fewer, beefier boxes participate in validating the network.
@dystopiabreaker I think there's a certain kind of detachment you have to develop to see this stuff as it is. Even if crypto was nearly perfect and deserved every bit of discussion it gets, there would then be alpha to be extracted by dunking on it since it's big. It's an ecological response.
@dystopiabreaker Getting hot-mad at these people is just giving them the alpha they seek, gotta get cold-mad and figure out how to make their strategy no longer profitable for them.
@dystopiabreaker Don't get mad, git gud.
If only you knew how much weirder things could be.
I wonder if lack of communal eating spaces is one of the reasons why schools naturally promote bonding but other modern environments don't.
Prompt: an alien organic detailed design of a common eating mess hall
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@zackmdavis @deepfates You've seen nothing yet tbh.
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@egregirls youtube.com/watch?v=_d4Kj2β¦
@xuenay The problem of intoxication.
@nosilverv x.com/jdcruzphil/staβ¦
@nosilverv x.com/freganmitts/stβ¦
@nosilverv > if you leave the physical world
I reject the premise, that phrase is itself a sleight of hand trick.
@ExistentialEnso @fumeiji Many Such Cases
reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/c⦠https://t.co/8MeIrXnTjy
@ExistentialEnso What am I even reading. https://t.co/dVrf8VSSB7
@nosilverv You will street preach this every day and never realize that some people's default is to daydream if they're not problem solving. This Heidegger stuff is also extremely ideological. If people don't bite it's probably because they're not like you.
youtube.com/watch?v=Q7UbChβ¦
@nosilverv First you day dream and then you learn to day dream about things which happen to have practical importance somewhere. The materialism is useful to turn your day dreams into valuable ideas instead of masturbation (like youtube.com/watch?v=l5PEz3β¦), that's all man. Don't overthink it.
Diamondoid Spaceship A,B,C,D
Prompt: scifi illustration of an alien organic detailed design of a sleek rocket spaceship covered in diamond lichen and moss
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Hic Et Nunc: hicetnunc.art/objkt/634274 https://t.co/ZGStLa5RM3
@deepfates I prefer it by a lot, but it's still going to suck.
@MacaesBruno "Most of the deaths are *with* COVID rather than *from* COVID." is functionally this.
"Most of the deaths are *with* COVID rather than *from* COVID." x.com/MacaesBruno/stβ¦
@ExistentialEnso They're actually giving you a hint about how to evade their brainwashing here. If you call the thing you are doing the platform name rather than an "NFT" it can become brand differentiated from problematic platforms like OpenSea.
restofworld.org/2021/inside-brβ¦
@metakuna That there is epistemic uncertainty about the reality of hypnosis is one of those strong indicators that modernity's ability to reliably verify real phenomena is limited.
@metakuna You can literally just perform the experiment yourself with a couple hours of research. How on earth is this something people still treat like it's speculative.
@VividVoid_ Think you are the hot date dude.
@deepfates @eggy_egregore Yeah, increasingly realize the Happenings are here and there's just less and less left to say. Those who were warned were warned and the rest will have their chips fall where they may.
@eggy_egregore @deepfates I agree, but for example the power of the essay is nearly gone, people don't read anymore and won't for the forseeable future. You're left with street preaching (Twitter) and radio/lecture/etc (YouTube).
@eggy_egregore @deepfates The next stage after that is all media losing its power because things are just happening and nobody has time for that stuff. We may very well be entering the endgame now.
@eggy_egregore @deepfates x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
What @MacaesBruno misses here is that 'woke' is the most successful youth movement in recent history. The kids have figured out that 'conformity' lets them bully serious adults (and serious youths) into arbitrary nonsense and they're addicted. There they lead the revolution. x.com/NewStatesman/sβ¦
If it all looks like a chaotic mess of maladjusted manipulative infighting, anti-intellectualism and social breakdown that's because this is the natural result of teenagers being in the drivers seat for real.
@PrinceVogel @anonynaut Astral Codex Ten is illegible, SlateStarCodex is ethereal. It's SSC in exile.
@PrinceVogel @anonynaut The author formerly known as SlateStarCodex...
You may recall the insistent threats from elders that nobody would tolerate "that snowflake nonsense" in the workplace. But how the turns have tabled! Now it is employers who bow to the demands of young people, no matter how ridiculous. Turns out a backbone counts for something.
@ExistentialEnso It's kind of bizarre tbh. Fine art is the one market in which artists make money, but you need connections to play because it's a game for rich people. NFTs bringing fine art markets to the masses is the most bullish opportunity for artists in a long long time.
@ExistentialEnso Have to wonder if the high variance of the endeavor is a lot of the anger. If you're the sort of person who thinks equal outcomes are a moral good then it makes you mad to see a system where some succeed and some fail almost at random. Especially if you think deceit is involved.
@ExistentialEnso Another aspect is the fear of "crypto bros" taking over art. Like if you're an artist you probably do it for ideological or idealistic reasons and the idea of the sort of person who thinks garish monkey pfps are worth tens of thousands bossing you around is terrifying.
@ExistentialEnso Because they're used to taking commissions, not selling to a market, so their model of it is that they go from taking commissions from pervy furry people to hyperlibertarian nihilists. The reality of course looks more like Hic Et Nunc.
restofworld.org/2021/inside-brβ¦
@ExistentialEnso I guess another thing that might be uncomfortable is the amount of surplus you need to give away in fine art pricing. It's a cliche observation at this point that artists never make as much during their life as their works sell for in death. NFT pricing gives money away.
@ExistentialEnso If you become big your early work could eventually be worth thousands, but at the moment your status means you have to sell it for $50. There's a certain amount of ego you have to get over to be able to do that, because a thousand dollars 10 years from now doesn't pay the bills.
@ExistentialEnso Should make a collage, you inspire some real bangers.
@metakuna extropianzealot.dreamwidth.org/1560.html#cutiβ¦
@TetraspaceWest This is how Friston's model of cognition works.
Prompt: the world's fair carnival displaying advanced organic diamond technology in rocketry self replicating machines and biological genetic engineering, trending on artstation
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/2sHh3ukhCl
@Ted_Underwood Oh yeah it's the best. Looks great in space too.
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@Ted_Underwood > bioluminescent
Oh thanks for the keyword, I haven't tried that yet.
@mechanical_monk @GarrettPetersen lmao Boltzmann Brains
@CoughsOnWombats I think the arrow means it downvotes the entire thread? Dunno, they haven't blessed me with this feature yet.
@VolcaneHabanero @mechanical_monk @GarrettPetersen I'm not physics galaxy brained enough to answer this definitively but tbh I think the simple answer is something like Occam's Razor. In a multiverse of possibilities consistent universes are going to dominate experiential slices over miracle brains.
@VolcaneHabanero @mechanical_monk @GarrettPetersen Even if we observe that the long tail of the universe implies much more time for miracle brains to occur, they're still miracles. They seem less likely to hallucinate a consistent universe, so anthropically if you experience one you're probably not a Boltzmann brain.
@VolcaneHabanero @mechanical_monk @GarrettPetersen i.e. This may just be a confusion of the likelihood any being in the multiverse is a boltzmann brain versus the likelihood *you personally* are a boltzmann brain given the distribution you're being drawn from.
@VolcaneHabanero @mechanical_monk @GarrettPetersen Mistaking mass for complexity there tbh.
@VolcaneHabanero @mechanical_monk @GarrettPetersen Like imagine I said to you that it's much more likely for a Boeing 747 to arise without sapient level intelligence than the earth's biosphere because the biosphere is much bigger.
Would anyone out there with a podcast be interested in having me on as a guest to talk about AI art?
Topics I'd like to cover include:
- Implications of transition towards art produced by capital
- AI art as apotheosis of 20th century art movements like 12 tone serialism
- The potential end of irony dominating counterculture through memes as sincere expression becomes economically viable
@pdtcbs @deepfates I think these are pretty, but you really have to define 'good' here.
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After all Thomas Kincade is pretty but I think most humanities scholars would consider it kitsch.
@Trent_STEMpunk To be very frank if I had adequate writeups of these subjects I wouldn't feel the need to do a podcast about them. I have other writing on adjacent topics I could link you to, or discuss it in DMs.
@Trent_STEMpunk So this thread is way more aggressively partisan than I would want to get on a podcast.
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
But it's discussing an adjacent subject in the context of NFTs of how the mass production of culture relates to what we're seeing now in contemporary movements.
@Trent_STEMpunk It's important to understand that the industry we tend to call 'content' or 'web 2.0' is propped up on this mountain of long tail tiny creators who are basically ideologically motivated on platforms like Tumblr.
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AI art has the potential to obsolete this.
@Trent_STEMpunk And this causes the nastiness we witness now in several ways. First it means platforms use controversy maximizing feeds because that is where content comes from. Second it means that the only way to have culture is to control these platforms socially.
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@Trent_STEMpunk I unfortunately haven't discussed the 12 tone serialism thing in detail anywhere because the thought just occurred to me today (inspiring the request, actually) but this thread discusses some adjacent stuff: x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@Trent_STEMpunk x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@egregirls Dear Void,
Thank you for writing to my advice column. From what you've written to me I'm afraid I have to confront you with a harsh, unpleasant truth: Your current friends just aren't good enough. You'll find better company in based individuals like yourself.
- P. Bateman
"I, personally, was not a good fit for this thing that claimed to be for everybody so now I'm going to retaliate by pretending it's wrong for everybody."
Many such cases. Many cases building upon previous cases, fueled by an arms race of plagiarism and bad faith generalization.
Which in turn leads to adopting bad faith/deliberately low fit universalism as an inoculation against certain kinds of brainworms produced by this process.
If everything is true in a certain sense then everything is good for somebody, nobody has to be wrong and nobody has to be right. https://t.co/5BBSM2WJDY
Great conversation with @Trent_STEMpunk and @benlandautaylor on what it looks like to be doing research with @SamoBurja and how his great founder theory works, relates to STEM centered theories of societal change, etc.
youtube.com/watch?v=FKoZZCβ¦
@nosilverv Thank you, this is much better.
@nosilverv Question on my end: What's a good way of identifying people in this kind of holding pattern using things like 'rationality' as a cope? Because I'm not really interested in the business of grifting, if people actually just need hug want gf I'd like them to get those things.
@nosilverv Yeah, I think a lot of my old model was, people who are suffering from 'akrasia' are trying and failing to do a certain thing or have ADD and I just need to help them with it. But what I discovered was that actually they're usually just confused and my 'helping' makes it worse.
@nosilverv You think you want to save the world or solve big scientific problems but then mysteriously you find *actually doing that* absolutely intolerable and when you examine the motivations it turns out people told you this is what you're supposed to want not what you actually want.
@nosilverv Same energy:
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@nosilverv There's personalities and aptitudes that are advantaged in any era, and extreme amounts of shaming and gaslighting going on around who has them and how possible it is for people to become them. It being convenient to be someone else doesn't make it so.
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@nosilverv This then inspires its own toxic reaction where people will try to claim that say, the needed traits and personalities are actually marshaling resources for a fake problem. It's a real possibility that what is needed simply isn't available or possible.
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@nosilverv For most people most of the time this is correct. The big thing I would caution with it is that it's much easier to go from reflection to doing than from doing to reflection. Once you move out of the reflective mode it's easy to lose track of when you should stop and return.
@nosilverv 'Doing' can also get weird with intellectual work, would definitely say you should be LOOKING AT ACTUAL THINGS and ideally DOING ACTUAL STUFF. One of the really bad habits that LW style rationality reinforces is spherical cow thinking, going mapmaking without the territory.
@nosilverv There's a genuinely difficult general problem of when it makes sense to do a lot of reflection and preplanning and when it makes sense to just execute an existing angle of attack and I'm unsure anything other than life experience can teach the full contours of making the tradeoff
@nosilverv I personally find that I go through explore/exploit periods characterized by reflection and strategic thinking in explore and ready-to-hand and tactical thinking in exploit.
@nosilverv The notion of 'angle of attack' seems central to managing explore/exploit tradeoff. If you're in a transitional state you're trying to find a new angle of attack, if you have an angle then overthinking it is just stalling/letting the opportunity slip past you.
@tszzl @lastcontrarian @_jersey_john @balajis @SiddharthKapo Somewhere around here there is a poll showing that Indians are among the only populations who support human genetic engineering and I *cannot find it*. Can someone please reply with the thing I'm thinking of?
@tszzl @lastcontrarian @_jersey_john @balajis @SiddharthKapo I remember discussion below had people speculating that latent cultural attitudes from the caste system were protecting India from toxic egalitarianism.
@lastcontrarian @tszzl @_jersey_john @balajis @SiddharthKapo Bless you. β€οΈ
1 retweet = 1 dharmatechnofuturism prompt done with AI diffusion models, limit 100, suggest prompts below
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(First two images examples of AI art along Eastern religious themes, last two examples of dharmatechnofuturism not by me) https://t.co/p75xeQM9Bg
Currently running: royalty free scifi illustration of cyborg vishnu in cross legged meditation on a beautiful rug
Prompt: royalty free scifi illustration of cyborg vishnu in cross legged meditation on a beautiful rug
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/BtZxV3l76b
Upscaling #12 because it's fire
@alterwyx Unreleased diffusion upscaler trained on yfcc full resolution scrape.
Prompt: street scene of cyberpunk New Delhi whose citizens are enlightened by the hindu dharma, trending on artstation
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/Wa4pSpIpGU
Fail, gonna try this again with cc12m_1
Prompt: Hindu Puja in worship of an icon of an ascended cybernetic scifi robot cyborg Swami Vivekananda, trending on artstation
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1_cfg]) https://t.co/RvPzazSLIf
Prompt: Hindu Puja in worship of an icon of an ascended cybernetic scifi robot cyborg Swami Vivekananda, trending on artstation
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/w8NdTKDtZh
Not an amazing upscale, but moving on. https://t.co/48LbXWYhp5
Prompt: a bodhisattva meditating in the center of a cyberdelic control room monitors televisions screens computers hacker lab, concept art, matte painting, trending on artstation
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/EMzqdRtbhY
Should we focus on revitalizing the real world or emigrating to Equestria?
x.com/MacaesBruno/stβ¦
Since @MacaesBruno just retweeted this to an audience of thousands who will have no idea what I'm referencing: fimfiction.net/story/62074/frβ¦
Prompt: A Buddhist Monk Using An EEG Brain-Computer-Interface Cap To Exorcise The Hungry Ghost In An Unenlightened Person, trending on artstation
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/Khx9gP5K6n
> Jordan Peterson's effete classical liberal shtick
Is precisely why they play up how hurt and offended they are, he appeals to the margins of their coalition and that's dangerous to them. Left or right, if you want to be targeted tempt the opposition. t.co/am5iLyoMPY
@PrinceVogel The most dangerous forbidden truth: The people your local elites spent two decades assuring you are uncultured swine don't have to be cringe.
@tszzl Roon teases his math pets (2022, colorized)
@eigenrobot Kind of Guy outside your house furiously refreshing your timeline for home invasion strategy tips because your latest banger was the last straw.
@eigenrobot He sends death threats in advance but they go unheeded because eigen never checks his DMs.
@eigenrobot Police finally have a reason to subpoena the DMs, find out that people have been using it as a confessional and straight up admitted to serial killings and arson to Eigen's blissful ignorance.
x.com/eigenrobot/staβ¦
@eigenrobot Yeah seriously bro stay safe, stay strapped.
@mechanical_monk x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
Whatever name Hic Et Nunc gets changed to needs to retain the arthouse brand. That's why even though SYNQ is a good name in the abstract I can't choose it, it's too much like an aggressive commercial brand, imperative connotations. WORSHIP, CONSUME, SOAR.
What do you think?
Hic Et Nunc is special because it doesn't have extremely aggressive "NFT" vibes, you can say your work is being sold on Hic Et Nunc and that's meaningfully different from most other NFT platforms.
Part of the way a thesis like 'illegibility' gains traction is by selectively filtering out the success cases of modernity.
When someone sits down in their armchair and imagines a massively better way to do things, it becomes normal and traditional.
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We also selectively forget the domains of human endeavor we were in fact able to formalize. For example at the start of the 20th century a "computer" was a person who did rote mathematics. During the Manhattan Project teenagers were hired to do repetitive bomb calculations.
If it seems in retrospect like it was obvious we could formalize computation but not say, music, you would be running counter to the many attempts from 20th century composers to formalize music in the form of e.g. serialism.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-toβ¦
Consider a piece like Ensembles for Synthesizer by Babbitt, which demonstrates the potential of electronic music for composers by creating a piece with a structure no orchestra could perform. The esoteric pattern is made up of short 3 second melodies.
youtube.com/watch?v=jF1njNβ¦
Far from being a fringe movement, serialism and its descendants focusing on musical structure like Stockhausen basically defined avante garde 20th century music in the same way nonrepresentational and 'intuitive' methods did 20th century visual art. The two took opposite tacks.
Babbitt describes his method of composition as hyper rigorous, requiring the same level of precision as computer programming. This is in stark contrast to the splatter paintings of artists like Jackson Pollock. Babbitt did not believe music should be composed for ordinary people. https://t.co/whNtXq4MZQ
These musicians were questing for nothing short of total control over their medium, formalization that would reduce a masterpiece to algorithms. And while they ultimately failed, AI art has the opportunity to succeed where methods like serialism could not.
Many of the things believed impossible due to their failure in the 20th century (and overtures toward their impossibility in the form of various anti-formalization proofs from Godel and others) will likely wind up being more possible than expected in the 21st, update accordingly.
Humans are used to dealing with models that top out in complexity at dozens of parameters, neural nets can take many more variables into account and sift through them to find the signal that predicts the outcomes we want even in very complex problem domains.
What we are beginning to understand is that 20th century modernism could not capture what a human brain does because it is simply not using enough moving parts to represent the problem space. Artificial neural nets succeed through using many parameters in their models.
@RokoMijic Eh I don't feel like having 50 people arguing in my notifications today.
@nosilverv There's a certain point where you reach epistemic escape velocity and you're just routinely having novel thoughts about stuff, 'big insights' stop being truly big insights even if you'd have previously marveled to stumble across one.
@MacaesBruno I think what they object to is the idea that someone could claim to know something by concluding it from the naive, straightforward interpretation. e.g. People who predict inflation think inflation is caused by printing money, which is often disputed.
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Prompt: A bodhisattva preserving themselves against an overload of information through calm minded adherence to the eighfold path, matte painting by James Gurney
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/pIy35dRr6D
Prompt: An Indian Sadhu Saadhu wearing a cyberdelic psychedelic virtual reality headset sitting on a rug on a city street using it to project bliss and peacefulness to passerby through psionic powers
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/Wl8t0XZCAR
Prompt: An Indian Sadhu Saadhu wearing a cyberdelic psychedelic virtual reality headset sitting on a rug in a indian city street scene using it to project bliss and peacefulness to passerby through psionic powers, concept art by ross tran
(CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/82d1qWgJzP
Prompt: A retrofuturistic Indian market stalls booths assembled around a train track going through its center, acrylic on canvas by ross tran
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/1LMsYMLQIr
If you're reading this you're among the last cohort with any chance of fixing things. x.com/profmusgrave/s⦠https://t.co/aFHUdVZL9S
@owenbroadcast See also: x.com/0x49fa98/statuβ¦
Lot of people making fun of this but it's a good sign - it means that the permanent bureaucracy thinks the pandemic is ending so it's safe for them to give away the masks they were hoarding for themselves.
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Point taken.
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@michaelcurzi youtube.com/watch?v=o3SZeeβ¦
@thesravaka Prompt: liberation of prickly disagreeable people from the cozy vibe detention camps, mspaint digital art https://t.co/J3aTUNq90G
@vgr IMO we need something like c/acc: Calvinist Acceleration
If most people are only motivated to do good by selection pressure then the only thing that can help is changing the environment so bad behavior hurts and good behavior is adaptive. Be the pain you want to see in the world
Prompt: Alan Watts with a robotic body greeting a group of buddhist monks
x.com/NicholasBardy/β¦ https://t.co/NCBmLRlw70
Prompt: Siddhartha Gautama dreaming an endlessly interweaving cycle of electric sheep by ross tran
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1])
Prompt by @ccneill. https://t.co/ORQMpUxa6p
@ExistentialEnso No profiteering is when you make a profit, you're only worthy of sympathy if you stay poor and anyone who tries to be not-poor is no longer a useful prop for my class interests, get it right peasant, know your place.
@ExistentialEnso (obligatory "this is a joke" tweet in case anyone reads this without context)
Prompt: vedic dissidents retreating to an online digital cyberdelic forest to meditate on the future of mankind, trending on artstation
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/sOraqAViog
Prompt: vedic dissidents retreating to an online digital cyberdelic forest to meditate on the future of mankind, matte painting by ross tran
(Guided CLIP Conditioned Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/J8ky24McdA
@nosilverv In our society the word "religion" almost exclusively refers to a dead religion, which makes it much more difficult to notice them.
@nosilverv Religion is a synonym for "lie that other people in a liberal society will politely not challenge", living religions do not have followers who act like they believe in a lie.
@theshawwn Surprisingly enough I sorta-kinda agree. At least for the moment. AI art is in an uncanny valley where the best stuff is good enough not to be interesting because of its glitchy novelty, but also bad enough that it doesn't really have much utilitarian value in most cases.
@theshawwn I also expect this to change in the span of a few months maybe, so I wouldn't get too comfy with that take.
So I'm on page 5 and I haven't read the rest of this story yet but I'm going to make a prediction:
Should have just prayed to Sarenrae.
@deepfates "Create until nothing is left to create and the universe bursts with an overworked sigh." is in fact a decent one sentence summary of what I would consider a good outcome.
youtube.com/watch?v=DehRu-β¦
@ID10TErrors @deepfates aeon.co/essays/left-anβ¦
Conservatism about human genetic engineering and natalist maximalism contradict each other. x.com/redoatz/statusβ¦
@realjdburn x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@Jessifris ...What, Google says this is in fact the correct pronunciation. I was saying "ess-trad-ee-ahl" in my head.
@nosilverv Yes, that is what happened. He is then further humiliated by history trying to paint him as a justification for the abuse, rather than someone who was held at gunpoint and forced to say socially polite things.
I was not expecting Mad Investor Chaos to have a Rand monologue about phenomenological necessity, please people when you're writing a long exposition like this give your characters something to do while they talk that 's a thinly veiled metaphor for the conversation topic. https://t.co/Od8ry2zT6U
Like can't someone cast Greater Shared Illusion and Keltham can use telepathy to warp the environment to illustrate his points? The setting has literal magic come on.
I'm begging you. https://t.co/o3ZVmODxGS
@PrinceVogel Not a book but this seems like adjacent/relevant content. Animals being in a cooperation with grass to prevent long term tree strategy from dominating is just kind of π€― to me.
palladiummag.com/2020/03/02/palβ¦
@PrinceVogel One thing that's important to note about this kind of thing is its implicit positive utilitarianism. Like embedded in 'Extropy' in the space colonization sense is a certain level of okayness with creating many many beings who suffer, since any ecosystem creation does that.
The NFT takes will continue until the engagement stops.
Yes, millennials vulnerability to this is one of their worst traits. x.com/nosilverv/statβ¦
They grew up in a very narrow span of time during which viral news was benevolent, and never updated after social media: slatestarcodexabridged.com/The-Toxoplasmaβ¦
nationalreview.com/corner/u-haul-β¦
@rohn_jawls @ctjlewis @virgil_30 @christapeterso outsidertheory.com/control-societβ¦
@ExistentialEnso Maybe you should do a Tezos shill thread? π
@ExistentialEnso x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@ExistentialEnso x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
People keep implying that the hexagon avatars getting you blocked on sight isn't a feature. Usually have to tweet some obnoxious stuff to get people to tell on themselves like that. x.com/atonal440/statβ¦
"Magical amulet that makes the haters cut off contact rather than witness your fabulous pfp."
Premium feature.
@alexandrosM See it'd have been actually funny if they swapped it to "and in the proteins bind them" but then they just quoted it straight wtf lol
@dystopiabreaker @ExistentialEnso @TwitterBlue Careful, Poe's Law is in full effect here and they might think this is serious feedback.
Thanks to @fumeiji for buying Bunker Entrance D. π
hicetnunc.art/objkt/460623 https://t.co/bABIL02tTy
Prompt: shiva standing at the center of a swirling vortex ushering forth the technological singularity
(Guided CLIP Condition Diffusion [cc12m_1]) https://t.co/N4AQ0fO6mf
Extremely thought provoking discussion, interesting how Stevens manages to become precise enough to see the convergent truths shared with e.g. Max More's Extropy but rejects the implicit utilitarian maximizer-aesthetic of it without making an unprincipled exception to his rigor. x.com/RomeoStevens76β¦
@tszzl What a fine night to have a curse.
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The unspoken distinction between "strong belief" as drive-to-extrapolate-reconcile and "strong belief" as growing-emotions-towards-static-concept.
Belief systems with former promote growth and with latter stunt it.
imagine someone telling you to believe harder and you push yourself into feeling more of the correlate of a well founded belief instead of finding more evidence that the thing is true lmao
Update: You can do this using the yfcc_2 v-diffusion model as well except it only takes 14gb of VRAM and 3 minutes of inference time.
Prompt: a beautiful landscape painting of a cyberpunk forest.
(CLIP Guided V-Diffusion [yfcc_2]) x.com/danielrussruss⦠https://t.co/vapEVjhH7X
@zetalyrae I prefer the OpenAI ImageNet version tbh:
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I redid that prompt to give us an apples to apples comparison.
@nosilverv When I was a kid I often fantasized about godhood because it would mean I'd never have to trouble myself with other people again, I'd be free to float on the wind and dream forever.
"That's the beauty of it, it doesn't do anything."
youtube.com/watch?v=849q2hβ¦
@deepfates Tomorrow there'll be more of us~
"You have a no chill order on your head."
@m1guelpf In the neutral interest of sanity some actual numbers on this: x.com/RiversHaveWingβ¦
Typical caveats that apply to Twitter polls in full effect here, etc. https://t.co/hG7GATpFLf
@m1guelpf It's better than what we see in these discussions in practice, where n hovers around 3.
@eigenrobot youtube.com/watch?v=s8153pβ¦
This is the way. x.com/eigenrobot/staβ¦
@RokoMijic @AmandaAskell x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
@nosilverv @WillManidis Yes, I promise.
@eigenrobot Ah yes this is classic Latvian story, United States seizes Europe in hope of treasure only to find out entire continent is just potato.
@nosilverv You don't have to define your position for me to infer what it is. And if you refuse to define yourself the beauty of modernism is I get to do it for you.
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@CoughsOnWombats glowfic.com/posts/4582
@interpretantion I'm sure it'll all blow over like that dumb virus scare a few years back.
@interpretantion Time came a-creeping
Oh and time's a loaded gun...
I can hear it coming
I can hear the sirens sound
Now my feet won't touch the ground
youtube.com/watch?v=mYUVT7β¦
@interpretantion Just so you know, the quote is NOT "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."
It is "Time (kΔla) I am, the great destroyer of the worlds, and I have come here to destroy all people."
@tszzl You laugh but this is a real litmus test used in psychedelic therapy apparently.
@dendricide @tszzl I hope I'm not misleading you but this was told to me as part of a book recommendation which I didn't read, to my memory the book was LSD Psychotherapy by Stanislav Grof but the PDF you'll find on the Internet doesn't seem to have OCR that would let me control-f for it.
@dendricide @tszzl It certainly doesn't seem outside the realm of possibility given passages like this: https://t.co/bGC5SJHLCF
@dystopiabreaker Which one? Eliezer Yudkowsky's writing is a bit like that first Velvet Underground album, only 10,000 people read it in full, but every one of them wound up a philosopher or blogger.
@InfraredArmy In retrospect a lot of me getting bullied in middle school was me being overenthusiastic in answering the teachers questions. Not all of it, but maybe 20-30% could have been avoided by just reading the room and shutting up.
@egregirls "There's a series of paintings that Picasso did, of the woman he was living with, and they're these drawings of this woman sleeping. {...} Picasso is watching over this person and fascinated with all the vulnerability of this person in a sleep stage."
youtube.com/watch?v=jCK2u1β¦
@Meaningness Giving me some vertigo here. I read Logicomix in high school and remember loaning it to a friend with abusive religious parents. The idea the contents of this essay would be a secret revelation is alien to me. Now I know how people who didn't react to x.com/jd_pressman/st⦠feel
@QiaochuYuan You would probably enjoy this book amazon.com/Logicomix-searβ¦
I just realized how absolutely batshit this take is given that Eliezer Yudkowsky's favorite book is Godel, Escher, Bach. LessWrong certainly failed but not in that particular way. x.com/Meaningness/st⦠https://t.co/hZcIWbtAYS
(By the way, I've never read Godel Escher Bach even though I have it sitting on my shelf. Funny how such things work out)
@deepfates Only the best for you. https://t.co/gPAXhcdacK
@meekaale @Azeirah I always feel bad for the authors of these, their works are so good but they're stuck in the Borgesian long tail.
Maybe the real magic of drugs like MDMA is it gets people out of their usual shell enough to just blurt out what they're actually, *actually* thinking during these discussions.
"Trying to be too rigorous cost me opportunities."
"I was in a cult and logic saved me." x.com/visakanv/statuβ¦
Wanting to be a 'happiness billionaire' is just ??? to me. I remember reading things like greaterwrong.com/posts/87mdaCvC⦠and realizing that I don't care if becoming a Buddhist monk will make me happy. I want what I want not what will make me feel good.
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Why are all these people overawed about 'embodiment'? Are they in pain all the time? Is compulsory schooling teaching them their body isn't theirs? Is it actually just a cover for giving themselves permission to be a sexual reproductive being? No clue tbh
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Something feels arrogant-disgusting to me about saying it, but I suspect I'm 1/1000 in my natural resistance to trauma. I'll often share memories about things like being left to bleed in a locked room at school to shocked onlookers. They're hurt by memories I think of as normal.
I know in principle that abuse is widespread and modernity is invasively controlling, but it doesn't feel real. I suspect my hedonic baseline is higher than usual. If it was lower maybe I'd be desperate for anything that promised to make me feel good.
If this was just a case of "people have different problems" I'd shrug and let it be. But when it results in people coping by loudly denouncing the things I love as bad and the problems I care about as non-problems I'm forced into conflict with them.
x.com/visakanv/statuβ¦
I'm not alone, one of the things I found so shocking reading about the life of Anne Sullivan is how horrible the things that happened to her were. Just startlingly, relentlessly awful, and yet she seems to have stayed entirely functional through all of it.
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It's possible to force people to update by sharing an insight that makes the environment resist their malignant strategy more, but the underlying motivations haven't changed. Forcing unaligned agents away from bad behavior is a slow and tedious way to capture stones. https://t.co/3SHhCN0yWk
Ideology is a lemon market. Rampant plagiarism means that without careful research it's hard to tell what to invest in to get what results. Laundering personal experience into 'objective' arguments lures in poor fit people who are then treated as bycatch.
x.com/nosilverv/statβ¦
People harp about how systems are bad because they're intrinsically flawed when it seems to me like most of the problem is systems plagiarizing insights they couldn't have come up with themselves in the course of advertising their aesthetics.
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What do you do about this? I have no idea. Public forums optimize for this kind of confusion pretty aggressively. Being personal and vulnerable in public is a recipe for being feasted on by vicious alpha-seekers looking to dunk and pillage. It's an ecology and you're free energy.
It's not that objectivity doesn't exist, it just isn't the central feature or battleground for most of what's going on with a lot of 'objective' arguments. This can be endlessly frustrating if you actually care about the things people appropriate for LARP
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Work out your own salvation with diligence.
@dystopiabreaker @0xIndigo > i felt an obligation to attempt to compete for mindshare
This is the only reason I post tbh.
@mattparlmer Doesn't this make the functional pay for being a member of congress worse? This seems like a move in the wrong direction.
@visakanv You're stuck inside a pattern.
You're stuck inside a loop
And you're stuck inside a pattern
You're stuck inside a loop
And you're stuck inside a pattern
You're stuck inside a loop
And you're stuck inside a pattern
You're stuck, so take a hammer to it
youtube.com/watch?v=aqkvWEβ¦
@nosilverv Could you speak more to the internal experience/phenomenology of that? If someone reading this thread is curious whether they're disembodied or not, how would they figure it out?
@nosilverv That QT wasn't a criticism, I was just pointing out that arguments about questions like "does universal law exist" aren't really about the thing (because if they were the answers would be obvious to way more participants bla bla bla uncharity whatever it's true).
@nosilverv Asking this in total seriousness: Did you ever do things like turn your head or roll your head around on its neck swivel? Neck is of course the connection between head and the rest of the body, so it seems like there would be weird impacts on use of it in this state.
@nosilverv One question I've been asked before is "how many points of contact on your body are you ambiently aware of while sitting in a chair, if you just close your eyes and count them" and I confusedly reply "all of them? <long list>" This is apparently not universal?
@nosilverv To make sure I understand this, you're saying a double digit % of the population gets on their computer/phone/whatever and they become so fixated on the screen that they forget they are sitting in a chair or using a keyboard or um...they gain total fusion with their tools?
@nosilverv Not just at a conscious level, but even their unconscious awareness. They stop optimizing the way they sit/stand for comfort, they don't express their thoughts with any kind of movement whatsoever, if I were to observe them there would be a kind of muted expression in them?
@nosilverv Does this imply you wouldn't touch your face or rest your head on your hand, or other actions which make the connection between the head and the rest of your body obvious? Like you're just rigidly sitting there controlling a head and a body?
@nosilverv @pee_zombie You say this but then conspicuously don't ask me more when I clearly am not 'rationalist due to disembodiment'.
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Or is it that they need to figure out what made *them personally* a rat in the first place?
@nosilverv @pee_zombie Rather than wait for you to solicit information you have a vested interest in not having, I'll volunteer the answer.
hpmor.com/chapter/6
readthesequences.com/Something-To-Pβ¦
I found HPMOR's intro funny, but chapter 6 spoke to me in a way nothing else had and I binged the rest afterwards https://t.co/mqHPxBmhbN
@nosilverv @pee_zombie Sure, I guess my question is like, what exactly are you expecting me to reverse here? It's frustrating to learn true lessons through trauma-themed experiences, but I'm not seeking to *unlearn* them. The premise implies all 'traumatic' lessons are false.
wrestlinggnon.com/extropy/2019/0β¦
What am I reading? I just like art lol the heck is this. x.com/AdamasNemesis/β¦ https://t.co/EBXCAykZHd
@ExistentialEnso It's actually the opposite of weird. You're sympathetic so you have to be witch hunted, you're socially connected to the harassers in a way 'crypto bros' aren't so they have a justified expectation their behavior will hurt you. Cold blooded rationality.
@ExistentialEnso Imagine their perspective for a moment, they are desperate to make NFTs (seen as a capitalist incursion into the scarcity-free digital realm) go away. You're ruining that. Gotta break a few duck eggs to spoil an omelette. They think they're fighting this:
palladiummag.com/2022/01/21/wheβ¦
@ExistentialEnso My advice would be to try not to take it too personally. It's not really about you, you just happen to be trans and disposable in a larger game.
"But what about helping marginalized people?"
Yeah that's not a thing, sorry you had to find out this way.
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@PrinceVogel @selentelechia You know what? Fuck you. *disenchants your reality*
@selentelechia @PrinceVogel > they didn't tell me about this
Oh no. You may want to look up an unbiased source about Luther's life. There's a *lot* of stuff they probably didn't tell you.
@PrinceVogel @selentelechia Once the Faustian trope of making a bad faith deal with the devil was invented he knew he was beat and stopped coming around.
@PrinceVogel @selentelechia Imagine how obnoxious it must be to deal with any human after the enlightenment. Always trying to game the deal, always trying to hurt you, screw them they have Kabbalah and Alchemy they can solve their own problems.
@PrinceVogel @selentelechia > he knew he was beat and stopped coming around
I mean we need to be realistic here, Satan is a fallen *angel*, you think he's out here coming up with concepts like 'meta-irony'? lol no you need to be made in the image of god to screw up that bad he's just egging you on https://t.co/DuzQcntOcv
@postpostpostr @selentelechia I have to wonder what the same person would say if you asked them about their opinion on hexing Brahman.
@postpostpostr @selentelechia https://t.co/37tswl1Hcy
Kind of guy living in the 22nd century under the misconception that 21st century illustrations look like anime because people forgot how to draw photorealism.
@QiaochuYuan Children can see that adults are ridiculous, sick, and insane. I remember being afraid of puberty because it seemed like people were so distracted by sex they stopped being full human beings.
youtube.com/watch?v=ZcWeE3β¦
@QiaochuYuan It's also a natural trope to come out of children's media, where the barrier between the world of adults and the world of children is always on the authors mind. Children wear epistemic baby clothes, so there needs to be an in-story reason to take them off as adulthood approaches
@QiaochuYuan There's multiple ways of handling this. One is the Blue's Clues/Winnie The Pooh approach of "I'm leaving now", moving on from a social situation which is a metaphor for an epistemic-spiritual situation. Another is the Narnia/Kid's Next Door/Peter Pan "growing up forces you out".
@QiaochuYuan It's also often a necessary trope for there to be a plot at all. Realistically, saving the world is something you would expect to be handled by adults. So for there to be a story where children are the protagonists, especially in modernity, there has to be an explanation for why.
@Outsideness Woke is a basilisk. Few.
@nosilverv Have you seen this yet? Seems like a must-read for you if not.
palladiummag.com/2022/01/21/whe⦠https://t.co/tWRVy4yuEt
'Metaverse' seems to be the emerging name/keystone concept for team Equestria.
x.com/NathanJRobinsoβ¦
Early sign for this trend was massive upticks in students telling their professors they want to enter Nozick's experience machine.
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Long thread on Russian church virtualism vs. American woke media properties
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So far this particular scissor issue has attracted a ton of attention from intellectuals and cultural commentators as a focal point (see thread), but I don't feel like I have a very good grasp on why. Is it just Zuck's influence? Would appreciate speculation in my replies. x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
Don't get me wrong it's not exactly dominating my timeline, but of the transhumanist themed upwing/downwing culture war shift that seems to be taking place this particular issue seems to be pulling ahead of the rest as what people want to discuss/argue about. Why?
@satisfiesvalues Not yet, but that's like, The Vision as articulated by e.g. @MacaesBruno. Level 1 eventually becomes a sort of quiet managed garden kept clean of troublesome elements so that digital games can continue.
@visakanv @pee_zombie This is the opposite of the approach I take, I try to make sure I'm familiar with prior art first so I can avoid making the mistakes they made. I don't think my originality suffers for it.
Written more about this at: greaterwrong.com/posts/RKz7pc6sβ¦
@deepfates x.com/ObserverSuns/sβ¦
@danlistensto x.com/paulg/status/1β¦
@dystopiabreaker I (and I'm sure many others) would totally be down to help you write "The Blockchain FAQ"
slatestarcodexabridged.com/The-Non-Libertβ¦
@dystopiabreaker But tbh 'blockchain' seems like too wide a scope, need some more topic specific misconception minefields like The Proof of Work FAQ, The NFT FAQ, etc.
@dystopiabreaker Also because it's 2022 all of these would need to be turned into compelling 30-120 minute long YouTube videos using the written form as a baseline/script to work off of.
@iamwhoisme @paulg Just made me realize I might have it, thank you.
@deepfates This countries priorities:
Party drugs? BANNED
Psychedelic therapeutics? BANNED
Existential crisis trigger that shows you reality is actually pure authoritarian repression? Oh, yeah, you can get that down at the gas station no big deal brah.
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@deepfates The cat can catch it, not joking.
@nosilverv He didn't. He flipped it back on its inventors, which was and continues to be hilarious.
@parafactual The latter, but you can check if the key is a real artist or not.
@parafactual You can go to etherscan and see if they sell any other NFTs, if a named artist is given you can see if that is the key they advertise/if they sell NFTs at all (should be obvious from their social media presence). You can reverse image search and see if the right artist is given.
@parafactual A lot of how people scam bucks by stealing art is either a) getting it from people who are such rubes they won't bother to check if an artist's key is legit (classic cryptography 101 stuff) or b) they rely on time pressure and hope you'll buy at first sight before someone else.
@parafactual NFTs are kind of a double edged sword in that they make attempting art fraud very easy while at the same time making the cost of verifying art provenance cheap, so that the average artist has to worry more about theft while fine art transaction costs trend toward zero.
@parafactual Considering that the 'theft' is largely concerning their ability to exploit a market niche they hold in contempt and has approximately ~0 impact on their ability to otherwise make an income I think that this is basically large net positive utility overall, but it rankles many.
I feel like a lot of Twitter poasters are competing with each other to be the most neutral edgelord possible in blissful ignorance that it's a game Vagrant Holiday has already won.
youtube.com/watch?v=7eFgRx⦠x.com/eigenrobot/sta⦠https://t.co/VOiRS6cTXN
@eigenrobot My man just watch the video, trust me.
@eigenrobot His riot one is actually the greatest thing ever but I didn't pick that because you have to be signed in to see it.
youtube.com/watch?v=CUO8seβ¦
@eigenrobot > the greatest thing ever
Or at least it *would be*, if he didn't also have a video of himself sneaking onto the extremely off-limits federal prison Island in Puget Sound.
youtube.com/watch?v=2xnI1hβ¦
@eigenrobot You don't have to like it, but this is totally the logical conclusion of eigenrobot's energy. https://t.co/mdGXnr4G4W
@eigenrobot I find the way people are behaving in those clips much more unsettling than the destruction itself. Shows just how thin the veneer of polite society really is.
@eigenrobot It's one thing to destroy things for rational goal-directed reasons. It's another thing entirely to just pick up a weapon and start smashing things for no discernible reason at all besides the animal-joy of destruction.
@eigenrobot It's definitely upsetting to think about who is bearing the costs of that destruction. I imagine how awful it must be to work your way up to a franchise or small store and come back to see its interior absolutely wrecked.
@edenisovan Can you discuss the phenomenology of what it's like to be inside vs. not inside?
@edenisovan What was stopping you from seeing the magic and complex sensory phenomenon before?
@edenisovan What's a concrete example of a way this has changed your behavior, preferably in your day to day life? If you're not paying attention to important things then waking up to see them should give you a lot more options right?
@edenisovan Also, is this related to x.com/jd_pressman/st⦠?
@edenisovan And if so, what do you think *causes* this? Because the idea of just not noticing your feet are cold is so alien to me.
x.com/nosilverv/statβ¦
@BecomingCritter Nothing else really looks like it, and it fits my persona unusually well.
youtube.com/watch?v=YhCogvβ¦
You're finally awake, you hit your head pretty bad there. GPT-3? Postrat? COVID? 2022? Dude what are you talking about it's 2011, come on I was just reading this great Harry Potter fiction by this guy called 'LessWrong'
Writing the postrat essay is a bittersweet experience. It's nice to know I can refute even the best sophistry, that inference does win in the end. But it's also sad to be 16k words into something and know nobody will read it. It's probably the last essay.
youtube.com/watch?v=4DlnM6β¦
I hope you took advantage of this hyperliterate period to learn something, anything about what is possible and what is to be done in the months and years to follow. Otherwise I'm afraid you're going to be bewildered and marginalized by what follows.
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
In 2022 I'm simply not convinced the written word does anything, people don't read and as we slide deeper into societal disintegration the audience for these things will only evaporate further. There's more and more to do, less and less to discuss.
x.com/deepfates/statβ¦
@egregirls An alternative phrase is that it is unlikely you will find yourself in the universe where we *just barely* accomplish a goal. Either there's substantial wiggle room or it was probably hopeless in the first place and you're just destroying yourself in the worlds where there's hope
@egregirls You get what I mean. Finding yourself in the place where the only allowable allocation of effort is "everything you've got including the amount to give that destroys you". Occasionally sure that's what it takes, but that should be an intrinsically suspicious narrative.
Everyone is trying to articulate the Big Narrative dividing the phase we're entering, one fruitful frame is greens vs. grays (also known as upwing/downwing).
x.com/eladgil/statusβ¦
Who gets to frame this will have long term ramifications for the whole thing. e.g. upwing/downwing is obviously much more favorable to the upwing contingent, most people are probably not into 'gray' as a color, so maybe it should be 'blue' instead but those are the Democrats...
It isn't just a generic 'tech' vs. not-tech conflict. Seems much more centered around tech-to-transcend vs. tech-to-cope. Hence the arguments around VR and 'metaverse' gaining outsized traction compared to the rest of the batch.
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
Interesting bit of edgelord-ish @algekalipso derivative being inserted into the discourse
x.com/JoshRainerGoldβ¦
theconversation.com/morality-pillsβ¦
@visakanv @TheAlexYao Socrates is the Greek Jesus, in his case he was clearly trying to make a point about Democracy and the wisdom of mobs.
@hyonschu @alexandrosM Then your opponents will control them and have the audience.
@Evolving_Moloch Dude what are you talking about you have one of the best blogs on the Internet.
@Evolving_Moloch I cite it in this post, even if only as a hyperlink: wrestlinggnon.com/extropy/2020/0β¦
This is an excellent blog that doesn't get nearly enough attention tbh. x.com/Evolving_Molocβ¦
@dystopiabreaker "ohm's forks and their consequences"
@Lithros https://t.co/b6gAShMV1D
@Lithros When I retook it changing all the answers I was on the fence about/could have gone another way on: https://t.co/ILI9d7WGEA
Who's your favorite absolutely unhinged poster on this website? Recommend me them in the replies, no lame "haha my mutual is so unhinged" joke shit I want genuine divergent perspective/schizo stuff. x.com/0xgokhan/statuβ¦
For me it's NoSilverV, but in the nicest way possible. Absolutely excellent persona, consistently posts borderline psychotic tweets. π₯°
x.com/nosilverv/statβ¦
Plus now that he's out of the way rest of ya'll have to actually think for a few seconds to answer.
@hackerfantastic Gnome shell? π§
@hackerfantastic Oh interesting, phosh will actually let me tile my windows?
@hackerfantastic Oh wait that's tmux isn't it.
@eggy_egregore @deepfates No that's the present.
x.com/jd_pressman/stβ¦
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